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	<title>Comments on: WED. PM: NAMES DROPPED WITH A THUD</title>
	<link>http://www.tobacco-on-trial.com/2005/01/27/wed-pm-names-dropped-with-a-thud/</link>
	<description>Blogging U.S. vs. Philip Morris, Inc.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.tobacco-on-trial.com/2005/01/27/wed-pm-names-dropped-with-a-thud/#comment-227</link>
		<author>krueger</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2005 19:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm trying to remember the last time someone told me "radon IS harmless".  Or carbon monoxide is harmless.  Or methyl mercury.  Or lead, PCBs, dioxin, any other pollutant.

Poor radon, it doesn't have a massive PR campaign. No one spends millions pushing the  message that radon is harmless. It doesn't get a cheering squad. It's regarded as just what it is: an airborne carcinogen. You've never heard anyone say "radon IS harmless. 

This is how we know the tobacco industry's campaign of deception on secondhand smoke is effective.  We hear it. The cheering for secondhand smoke that you don't hear for any other pollutant, any other carcinogen, any other pathogen.

Sometimes the cheering repeats industry PR themes almost word for word. "Not proven!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to remember the last time someone told me &#8220;radon IS harmless&#8221;.  Or carbon monoxide is harmless.  Or methyl mercury.  Or lead, PCBs, dioxin, any other pollutant.</p>
<p>Poor radon, it doesn&#8217;t have a massive PR campaign. No one spends millions pushing the  message that radon is harmless. It doesn&#8217;t get a cheering squad. It&#8217;s regarded as just what it is: an airborne carcinogen. You&#8217;ve never heard anyone say &#8220;radon IS harmless. </p>
<p>This is how we know the tobacco industry&#8217;s campaign of deception on secondhand smoke is effective.  We hear it. The cheering for secondhand smoke that you don&#8217;t hear for any other pollutant, any other carcinogen, any other pathogen.</p>
<p>Sometimes the cheering repeats industry PR themes almost word for word. &#8220;Not proven!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Archie Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.tobacco-on-trial.com/2005/01/27/wed-pm-names-dropped-with-a-thud/#comment-225</link>
		<author>Archie Anderson</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2005 23:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kruger
 Second hand smoke IS harmless, Do you have peer reviewed legitimate scientific evidence that says other? Please share it with the redt of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kruger<br />
 Second hand smoke IS harmless, Do you have peer reviewed legitimate scientific evidence that says other? Please share it with the redt of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.tobacco-on-trial.com/2005/01/27/wed-pm-names-dropped-with-a-thud/#comment-219</link>
		<author>krueger</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2005 00:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How was it that Wynder happened to end up as Parrish's teacher on secondhand smoke?

Could it be because Philip Morris had been tracking Wynder for 25 years, and knew he believed secondhand smoke was harmless:

http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/tid/mmj49d00 

http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/tid/lfb98e00 

How did it happen that Parrish ended up with a teacher on secondhand smoke whose opinion on secondhand smoke was so convenient for the industry?

After all, scientific consensus was the other way around. It wasn't impossible to find a scientist who held the opinion convenient to the industry -- but it would have meant a search.

You could for instance also find a scientist who believes HIV doesn't cause AIDS:

http://www.duesberg.com/

But you'd have to search for that.  Most scientists believe HIV causes AIDS.

How was it that Parrish's teacher on secondhand smoke just happened to be a scientist who believed that secondhand smoke is harmless?

And Parrish apparently never talked to any of the scientists who believe secondhand smoke causes disease?

Was this a "good faith effort to talk to scientists to find out the state of information on secondhand smoke"?

Or was this a talk with a particular scientist that Philip Morris knew would give the opinion convenient to the industry?

You be the judge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How was it that Wynder happened to end up as Parrish&#8217;s teacher on secondhand smoke?</p>
<p>Could it be because Philip Morris had been tracking Wynder for 25 years, and knew he believed secondhand smoke was harmless:</p>
<p><a href="http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/tid/mmj49d00" rel="nofollow">http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/tid/mmj49d00</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/tid/lfb98e00" rel="nofollow">http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/tid/lfb98e00</a> </p>
<p>How did it happen that Parrish ended up with a teacher on secondhand smoke whose opinion on secondhand smoke was so convenient for the industry?</p>
<p>After all, scientific consensus was the other way around. It wasn&#8217;t impossible to find a scientist who held the opinion convenient to the industry &#8212; but it would have meant a search.</p>
<p>You could for instance also find a scientist who believes HIV doesn&#8217;t cause AIDS:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.duesberg.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.duesberg.com/</a></p>
<p>But you&#8217;d have to search for that.  Most scientists believe HIV causes AIDS.</p>
<p>How was it that Parrish&#8217;s teacher on secondhand smoke just happened to be a scientist who believed that secondhand smoke is harmless?</p>
<p>And Parrish apparently never talked to any of the scientists who believe secondhand smoke causes disease?</p>
<p>Was this a &#8220;good faith effort to talk to scientists to find out the state of information on secondhand smoke&#8221;?</p>
<p>Or was this a talk with a particular scientist that Philip Morris knew would give the opinion convenient to the industry?</p>
<p>You be the judge.</p>
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